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VonRolland said:
Different experience = Different cred
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Not the same thing. Going on a backwards seat on a rollercoaster is also a different experience but not a different cred. Riding one rollercoaster (one piece of hardware) is fundamentally one ride, even if the experience is different next time. However, it can "feel" as a different cred even if it isn't, that I can understand.
 
Leon_K said:
Not the same thing. Going on a backwards seat on a rollercoaster is also a different experience but not a different cred. Riding one rollercoaster (one piece of hardware) is fundamentally one ride, even if the experience is different next time. However, it can "feel" as a different cred even if it isn't, that I can understand.
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My reasoning here is if I ride the big orange version of the ride. Then the next day they remove all of the orange track and leave just the green bit before I arrive. Would I say that's the same roller coaster? No I wouldn't.

Or perhaps the reverse. If I ride a junior boomerang and the next year I came back and they'd kept that bit of track but turned it into a massive looper, I wouldn't count it as the same ride.

Not to dissimilar to if I'd gone to Kenny wood in the 90s and ridden a looper and when I came back they'd kept some of the same track but now it was a non looping hyper, I wouldn't count those as the same ride either.

But in reality people are going to count it both ways. Same as mobius coasters, same as mountain coasters, same as butterflies. Some count one way and some count the other. No wrong or right answers
 
I am very interested in how popular the family cycle will be, and my biggest reason is the vest restraints.
When I was younger, I was absolutely convinced that bigger restraints = scarier ride. With my logic, a B&M hyper coaster could never match the intensity of a Gerstlauer Eurofighter, and I say that with a straight face. The idea of needing "more" to secure you in always terrified me. Rage at Adventure Island would be a scarier ride than, I don't know, Millennium Force for this exact reason.

Fast forwards to when I saw photos of Hyperspace Mountain at Disneyland Paris for the first time and therefore seeing vest restraints for the first time. There was absolutely and undeniably nothing stopping me from being utterly convinced that Hyperspace Mountain was the scariest and most insane roller coaster the world had ever seen. I was betting on people leaving the park in stretchers daily from how ridiculous it must have been. I didn't even want to know the layout.

I wonder how many other young'ns have the same ideology. Parks may be convinced that a shoulder restraint is better to reassure safety, but to me a shoulder restraint said "this is on another level to anything else that your tiny mind could even comprehend".

So I wonder if the vests will stay.
 
GeminiOP03 said:
Got it. So, Raging Bull no mcbr = new cred. The Voyage Holiwood Nights = new cred. Millennium Force in the rain = new cred. See how this doesn't make sense?
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You complete the full circuit on both of your examples now don't you silly!
Weather and trims obviously don't count.
Backwards or spinning seats on a normal train do however change the ride experience.
 
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VonRolland said:
You complete the full circuit on both of your examples now don't you silly!
Weather and trims obviously don't count.
Backwards or spinning seats on a normal train do however change the ride experience.
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So if u rode racer at kings island backwards and then forwards are u counting that as 2 separate credits?
 
i305_zack said:
So if u rode racer at kings island backwards and then forwards are u counting that as 2 separate credits?
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All of these are examples are nothing like this ride at all. 🤣

This is my thinking of a hypothetical but possible situation.

You visit and ride just the adult coaster version, the ride then breaks down for the rest of the day.
are you saying you completely have the credit?

If so, let's say you return years later and they've removed the adult section completely and just left the junior section, are you still saying you have the credit?

If not then I'd say it's 2 credits.

If yes, that's fine. It would be really weird to me and no way I'd count it like that. But it's a valid opinion.

There's also the option of 1/2 credits that some people use on Mobius coasters, but no way I'm having .5 credits on my count
 
WarmishSign said:
I feel like this credit debate is a little similar to lift vs launch Lightning Rod. I would count that as one, but I don’t count credits
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That’s definitely one credit, this one is very interesting tho, like im not arguing with anyone on this, cuz personally idek what to think🤣 my head says one credit and my heart says 2 credits, i will probably just go off the LogRide app I have on my phone (love that app btw)
 
roomraider said:
All of these are examples are nothing like this ride at all. 🤣

This is my thinking of a hypothetical but possible situation.

You visit and ride just the adult coaster version, the ride then breaks down for the rest of the day.
are you saying you completely have the credit?

If so, let's say you return years later and they've removed the adult section completely and just left the junior section, are you still saying you have the credit?

If not then I'd say it's 2 credits.

If yes, that's fine. It would be really weird to me and no way I'd count it like that. But it's a valid opinion.

There's also the option of 1/2 credits that some people use on Mobius coasters, but no way I'm having .5 credits on my count
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A logical response at last!
 
roomraider said:
There's also the option of 1/2 credits that some people use on Mobius coasters, but no way I'm having .5 credits on my count.
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Here's my system for mobius coasters - the world according to Hixee (frankly, how it should be) - to get the cred, I need to ride both sides once. Until I've done both sides, I don't have the cred - I don't do 0.5 creds, that's the road to madness. But, after that, every lap on either side, adds one to my 'laps' count.

I think (I think) I'd approach this the same way. Ride it in both "family" and "thrill" modes to get the +1, but after that any ride in either mode would count as a 'lap'.

Maybe I need to write a rule into LoG for mobius-type creds... :D

EDIT: Fixed "mobile" to "mobius" autocorrect.
 
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