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VonRolland said:
Different experience = Different cred
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Not the same thing. Going on a backwards seat on a rollercoaster is also a different experience but not a different cred. Riding one rollercoaster (one piece of hardware) is fundamentally one ride, even if the experience is different next time. However, it can "feel" as a different cred even if it isn't, that I can understand.
 
Leon_K said:
Not the same thing. Going on a backwards seat on a rollercoaster is also a different experience but not a different cred. Riding one rollercoaster (one piece of hardware) is fundamentally one ride, even if the experience is different next time. However, it can "feel" as a different cred even if it isn't, that I can understand.
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My reasoning here is if I ride the big orange version of the ride. Then the next day they remove all of the orange track and leave just the green bit before I arrive. Would I say that's the same roller coaster? No I wouldn't.

Or perhaps the reverse. If I ride a junior boomerang and the next year I came back and they'd kept that bit of track but turned it into a massive looper, I wouldn't count it as the same ride.

Not to dissimilar to if I'd gone to Kenny wood in the 90s and ridden a looper and when I came back they'd kept some of the same track but now it was a non looping hyper, I wouldn't count those as the same ride either.

But in reality people are going to count it both ways. Same as mobius coasters, same as mountain coasters, same as butterflies. Some count one way and some count the other. No wrong or right answers
 
I am very interested in how popular the family cycle will be, and my biggest reason is the vest restraints.
When I was younger, I was absolutely convinced that bigger restraints = scarier ride. With my logic, a B&M hyper coaster could never match the intensity of a Gerstlauer Eurofighter, and I say that with a straight face. The idea of needing "more" to secure you in always terrified me. Rage at Adventure Island would be a scarier ride than, I don't know, Millennium Force for this exact reason.

Fast forwards to when I saw photos of Hyperspace Mountain at Disneyland Paris for the first time and therefore seeing vest restraints for the first time. There was absolutely and undeniably nothing stopping me from being utterly convinced that Hyperspace Mountain was the scariest and most insane roller coaster the world had ever seen. I was betting on people leaving the park in stretchers daily from how ridiculous it must have been. I didn't even want to know the layout.

I wonder how many other young'ns have the same ideology. Parks may be convinced that a shoulder restraint is better to reassure safety, but to me a shoulder restraint said "this is on another level to anything else that your tiny mind could even comprehend".

So I wonder if the vests will stay.
 
GeminiOP03 said:
Got it. So, Raging Bull no mcbr = new cred. The Voyage Holiwood Nights = new cred. Millennium Force in the rain = new cred. See how this doesn't make sense?
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You complete the full circuit on both of your examples now don't you silly!
Weather and trims obviously don't count.
Backwards or spinning seats on a normal train do however change the ride experience.
 
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