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What is keeping you on forums in the social media age?

Late to the conversation, but kinda backs up my point.

I'm not as active on forums as I'd like to be in fairness. But their organisation and very nature means that you can follow conversations, news and discussions, and contribute when you want/can. Social media is very much "here and now", and rarely goes beyond a day or two of conversation.

Social media has it's place - I enjoy the fun tweets I see sometimes, for example. But then it can be too intense, or cheap jokes where people aren't interested in actually understanding what's going on.

Social media has its breaking news, or posting of videos, but I'd much rather come to a forum, see a simple (or in depth!) written breakdown of what's happening, plus people's opinions. Social media has fallen into the 'me me me' and 'overly positive' trap, as others have said, and it's just tiring.
 
Forums have actual discussion for one thing. Another is that you start to get a feel for who is who, and while you don't necessarily know people exactly, you're aware of who they are at least and it feels more like a community.

Nowadays AI is ****ing ruining all social media. I only have Facebook anyway, but literally everything is written by AI now. I used to think Facebook was pretty cringe back in the day but dear god I actually miss the inane posts from people I know! Not my own though, my old posts are cringe 🤣
 
Better archival of older posts
On 99% of social media platforms, informative news comes and goes. It's far easier to have real-time conversations on platforms like Discord, but its biggest downfall is the difficulty with looking back on past messages. It's thrilling to sometimes dive back into the past with old construction threads on these forums, especially when people did detective work on what a new addition might be and the reactions to something unexpected. With other platforms, it is incredibly difficult to find these old messages and replicate that feeling.
The terrible archiving also makes it easy to accidentally re-post news, often having to start your message with "not sure if anyone's seen this but", and then some shining stars say "you're late" because you're not terminally online.

More action is taken on bad apples, and forums have a far more prominent "think before you post" incentive
On most social media, an unsavoury user cannot simply be banned on the spot, and most of the time, is also allowed to exist and be extremely annoying with insane levels of leniency from moderators. On places where they cannot be banned, such as Twitter and Facebook outside of special groups, we have to rely on the community collectively banding together and say "no, we don't want you here" instead of a trusted person ridding them with the click of a button.
Facebook and Twitter do have spevial groups for certain aspects of theme park enthusiasm, but a) these are all disjointed from one another, b) there is fighting between these groups in extreme cases where they "compete" against each other, and c) you have to "prove yourself worthy" of joining these groups, such as being a passholder or having a certain degree of knowledge of a park before even getting in.

Everyone is seen and heard at the same level no matter what
On other social media, you can spam something multiple times to get someone's attention, or you can repeat a would-be unpopular opinion on several occasions in an attempt to rage-bait others. Here on the forum, you post one reply, and whether or not people respond to what you say, is up to them. You don't repeat what you say because the conversation's moving too fast and are worried that people didn't see. The slower nature of a forum makes it so that every reply and post is seen, something that almost all social media fails at. You can make a post on social media and it gains zero replies or traction because people didn't see it. With a forum, if nobody replies to your thread/post, you can at least conclude that it was because nobody had anything to say or add to it, but you can guarantee that people at least saw it. When most comments sections on social media default to only showing the most-liked comments first, it can be difficult to engage properly. The "forced chronological order" of forum posts appeals to me greatly.

I am not having the same conversations every week
On a forum, rarely ever do I have to worry about a conversation descending into the same old stupid "is it a credit" argument again. We have a thread for that where anything related to that goes. The weekly Alton Towers bashing can go into the "WTF Merlin" thread instead of clogging #main-chat and becoming the only thing we discuss for two hours.

There is a better and more positive outlook towards excessively long posts
Extremely often on social media, when someone makes a long and passionate post, it is incredibly easy to a) scroll past it and say "i ain't reading allat 😶‍🌫️", or b) tell them "bro rewrote the whole ahh declaration of independence ☠️". Social media appears to be for people who prefer short-form posts and comments, with messages almost never consisting of more than three sentences or "montu is NOT a 6 bruh" before hitting send. A long message made of huge winding paragraphs is often met with ridicule more than anything, and suddenly it's "not that deep". I understand that short-form messages have a place especially in real-time messaging on places like Discord and WhatsApp, I am not against it, I'm just saying it's most often seen there.
On a long forum post, the whole thing gets read, and more than one person actually replies to the points that you make.

Sometimes it's just nice to see the proper grammar
As a frequent Discord user (and actually as someone who's indefinitely left almost every server I'm in due to an addiction to it that I'm struggling to control), I'm no stranger to throwing every single grammar rule out of the window.

every message i send is in all lowercase and punctuation is only really there when necessary tbh
in fact i kinda talk like this everywhere LOL but here is where i make a strong exception lmao
its pretty much just here and emails where i decide to put my big boy boots on


It makes sense for forums to be a far more mature place than social media. I can't quite pinpoint why not grammar and spell-checking your posts here annoys me so much more than the exact same thing on other social media platforms.

I do not want to see forums die out
Frankly, this is a huge motivator for my increased activity here.

Finally, there is no AI here
And let's keep it that way forever.
 
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Great post @Rob Coasters; there are a great many points in there I agree with!

For my sins, I’ll admit I’ve taken to using Reddit recently. I find parts of it quite entertaining, and I think it’s somewhat similar to forums in some ways (sub-Reddits lightly resemble forums, and some of them are well-moderated and a very good source of information). But one thing still irritates me about it; it still has the karma system that prioritises showing things based on what’s popular and has the most “upvotes”. It means that people who are late to the party don’t have their views seen, or that people with unpopular opinions that go against the grain of a subreddit are often silenced and shouted down. If you post a controversial view, prepare to get downvoted into oblivion so that your post isn’t seen. That doesn’t seem right to me; I think that everyone’s opinion should be equally valid. I think it promotes echo chamber mentalities, hive mind views and quickly blurting out a popular stance for momentary kudos, while a healthy debating environment should have a mix of opinions, reward those who put time into crafting their arguments and let anybody, no matter how controversial their stance, be heard equally.

Your point about the social media language and posting style is a good one. I tend to write in quite a grammatically correct manner and like a good long post to set my full argument out, but social media is all about very quick takes, text speak, and all this strange language like “mid” and “elite” and “cooked”, which I just can’t get on board with myself. I’m going to make myself sound incredibly old for my age here, but I’ve never used an emoji in a text, and I intend to keep it that way! I text like I’m sending an email and get mocked relentlessly for it by my family, but that’s a topic for another thread…

I’ve never used theme park Discords, and I begrudgingly used Discord in uni for course chat and found it highly irritating. If you’ve ever seen David Mitchell’s WhatsApp rant, I think that sums up my opinions on Discord (and WhatsApp groups, to be honest) quite well!

Paradoxically, I’m going to posit a potentially controversial opinion in that I think social media has made forum discussion quality better. This might seem like an odd take, as some believe that forum discussion quality has worsened due to the effects of social media rubbing off on the forums by osmosis, but I’d argue that when I first started browsing the forums back in 2014/15 or so, there were way more trolls, way more low effort posts and way more arguments and rivalries. The people who want to make low effort posts and troll have now been hoovered up by Facebook, Twitter, Reddit et al, meaning that the people on forums have made quite an active choice to be there and use the format of a forum. I don’t know if anyone else agrees, but I think that makes things better for all of us, even if the sites are a bit less active as a result!

Finally, I would also quite like to say that I think the reason so many of us like forums is due to the excellent moderation of the ones we use. CoasterForce (and TowersStreet and Thorpe Park Mania, which I also use) is an excellently moderated space that has consistently allowed for fair and friendly discussion throughout my 8.5 years contributing on here and 11-12 years reading! My reason for saying this is that as much as we all rant about social media, I think a poorly moderated forum can encapsulate the same features we bemoan about social media, like echo chambers, and I think other issues like cliques and insularity can also arise on a poorly moderated forum, so I think we should be thankful to our excellent moderators who work hard to ensure that doesn’t happen here!
 
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